Bernie
Sanders stuck up for himself in two moments of anger during Sunday
night's debate with Hillary Clinton, shushing the former secretary of
state with an outburst – 'Excuse me! I'm talking!' – when she tried to
interrupt him.
The
two sparred in a CNN showdown in Flint, Michigan. Sanders, a Vermont
senator, trails Clinton in the race for his party's presidential
nomination.
The
normally taciturn and grandfatherly Vermonter linked the 2009 auto
industry rescue, a political hobby horse in the Great Lakes State, with
the much-maligned Wall Street bailout, since they were accomplished with
the same piece of legislation.
Clinton, then a U.S. senator from New York, voted in favor of it. Sanders voted no.
'In January
of 2009 President-Elect Obama asked everybody in the Congress to vote
for the bailout,' Clinton recalled. 'The money was there. It had to be
released to save the American auto industry and 4 million jobs, and to
begin the restructuring.'
'We
just had the best year that the auto industry has had in a long time. I
voted to save the auto industry. He voted against the money that ended
up saving the auto industry. I think that is a pretty big difference.'
'Ohh!'
Sanders exclaimed as the debate audience smelled blood and cheered.
'Well, if you are talkin' about the Wall Street bailout where some of
your friends destroyed the economy,' he slapped back.
'You know –' Clinton jumped in.
'Excuse me! I'm talking!' Bernie erupted, drawing cheers from his partisans.
'If you're gonna talk, tell the whole story, Senator Sanders,' Clinton lectured, interrupting a second time.
'Well, let me tell my story. You tell yours,' he responded.
'I will!' Clinton chirped.
He said
Clinton's position boiled down to believing 'that if somebody who is
crazy, or a criminal, or a horrible person goes around shooting people,
the manufacturer of that gun should be held liable.'
'And
if that is your position ... if that is the case then essentially your
position is there should not be any guns in America. Period.'
'That is like the NRA position! No!' Clinton blurted.
Bernie pushed her voice away.
'Can I finish, please? Alright?' he exploded as a hush fell over the auditorium.
And you can – there are people who hold that view. And that's fine if you hold it,' Sanders added.
'I think what you do is you hold those people who've used the gun accountable.'
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