Alex
Salmond was left floundering last night as he came under pressure to
explain how his dream of independence would work in practice
The
First Minister failed to secure a decisive victory in the first
TV debate of the referendum campaign, floundering when questions about a
future currency and labelled 'snide' by audience members.
Better
Together leader Alistair Darling shed his reputation for being dull to
go on the attack, branding plans to keep the pound 'stupidity on stilts'
and accusing the Yes campaign of being based on 'guess work, blind
faith and crossed fingers'.
But
millions of people trying to watch the historic head-to-head were
dismayed after the STV website crashed under the intense demand from
viewers worldwide.
Former Chancellor Alistair Darling had First Minister Alex
Salmond on the ropes over what currency and independent Scotland would
use, dismissing the idea of keeping the pound as 'stupidity on stilts'
The two men repeatedly clashed over whether Scotland would be better remaining in the UK or becoming an independent country
The debate took place in front of an audience of 350 at the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland in Glasgow.
At the start of the debate,Alex Salmond urged voters in Scotland to seize the opportunity of independence with both hands.
He said: 'It should be a shared position tonight that Scotland could be a successful independent country.
'My
case this evening is this: no one, no one will do a better job of
running Scotland than the people who live and work in this country.
'On September 18 we have the opportunity of a lifetime. We should seize that opportunity with both hands.'
Former Chancellor Alistair Darling
warned 'the future of our country' was now at stake. He added: 'There
are times that for the love of our family and the love of our country
it's sometimes best to say No, not because we can't, but simply because
it's not the best thing to do.
'In
six weeks time we will make the biggest decision we've ever made here
in Scotland and remember this, if we decide to leave there is no going
back, there is no second chance.
'So
let's say with confidence, let's say with pride, let's say with
optimism No thanks to the risks of independence, and let's say let's
have the best of both worlds not just for us but for generations to
come.'
A new IpsosMori poll released at 8pm suggested the race is tightening, but the Yes vote still trails by about 14 points.
A
snap exit poll by ICM of more than 500 viewers after the STV debate
found that 56 % believed Former Chancellor Alistair Darling won, with just 44%
backing the SNP leader Alex
Salmond
Alex Salmond, journalist Bernard Ponsonby, and Alistair Darling
KEY QUOTES OF DEBATE SO FAR
INDEPENDENCE
Salmond: 'No one will do a better job of running Scotland than the people who live and work in this country.'
Darling:
'There are times that for the love of our family and the love of our
country it's sometimes best to say No, not because we can't, but simply
because it's not the best thing to do. I want to use the strength of the
UK to make Scotland stronger.'
CURRENCY
Salmond:
'We will keep the pound because it is our pound as well as England's
pound. It is logical and desirable to keep the pound.'
Darling:
'A currency union is stupidity on stilts. If you leave the United
Kingdom you leave the pound. What is your plan B if you don't get a
currency union, this is most important.'
GOVERNMENT
Salmond:
'The Tory Party have one MP, there are more pandas in the zoo in
Edinburgh than Tory MPs in Scotland. But we still get a Tory Government.
That is what is undemocratic about the status quo.'
Darling: 'It's a nice line but it's not an answer.'
BANKS
Salmond:
'I don't think talking about the financial markets is your strongest
suit Alistair, given what happened to the financial markets when you
were Chancellor of the Exchequer.'
Darling:
'If Scotland had been independent at the time it would have been in
exactly the same position as Ireland and Iceland. Both of those
countries are bust now because it couldn't deal with the banking
crisis.'
EUROPE
Salmond:
'Isn't the real uncertainty that you have a government which is having
an in-out referendum on Europe and you're in bed with people who will
say that they're going to vote to leave the European Union. Isn't that
the risk for Scotland?'
Darling: 'The
big point here is that I've always said yes we'll get back in, the
question is the terms and conditions on which we'll get back in and how
long it takes to get back in. It's quite clear that Scotland would have
to reapply, it's not at all clear what the term and conditions are that
we'd have to meet.'
TAX AND SPENDING
Salmond:
'In each one of the last 33 years, Scotland has paid more in tax per
person than the average of the UK. Over the last five years we have £8
billion more into the treasury than we have had out of it, in relative
terms. that is £1,500 a head for every man, woman and child in
Scotland.'
Darling:
'Money has flowed both ways over the last 30 years, but in the last 22
years Scotland has spent more than it has put in, so we have benefited
from being part of the United Kingdom. We have higher public spending
here per head than they do in the rest of the United Kingdom.'
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